Precision Boost 2

Exact per-core turbo timings for the new processors will be determined by AMD’s voltage-frequency scaling functionality through Precision Boost 2. This feature, which we covered extensively in our Ryzen 7 2700X review, relies on available power and current to determine frequency, rather than a discrete look-up-table for voltage and frequency based on loading. Depending on the system default capabilities, the frequency and voltage will dynamically shift in order to use more of the power budget available at any point in the processor loading.

The idea is that the processor can use more of the power budget available to it than a fixed look up table that has to be consistent between all SKUs that are stamped with that number.

Precision Boost 2 also works in conjunction with XFR2 (eXtreme Frequency Range) which reacts to additional thermal headroom. If there is additional thermal budget, driven by a top-line cooler, then the processor is enabled to use more power up to the thermal limit and get additional frequency. AMD claims that a good cooler in a low ambient situation can compute >10% better in selected tests as a result of XFR2.

Ultimately this makes testing Threadripper 2 somewhat difficult. With a turbo table, performance is fixed between the different performance characteristics of each bit of silicon, making power the only differentiator. With PB2 and XF2, no two processors will perform the same. AMD has also hit a bit of a snag with these features, choosing to launch Threadripper 2 during the middle of a heatwave in Europe. Europe is famed for its lack of air conditioning everywhere, and when the ambient temperature is going above 30ºC, this will limit additional performance gains. It means that a review from a Nordic publication might see better results than one from the tropics, quite substantially.

Luckily for us we tested most of our benchmarks while in an air conditioned hotel thanks to Intel’s Data-Centric Innovation Summit which was the week before launch.

Precision Boost Overdrive

The new processors also support a feature called Precision Boost Overdrive, which looks at three key areas for power, thermal design current, and electrical design current. If any of these three areas has additional headroom, then the system will attempt to raise both the frequency and the voltage for increased performance. PBO is a mix of ‘standard’ overclocking, giving an all core boost, but gives a single core frequency uplift along with the support to still keep Precision Boost trying to raise frequency in middle-sized workloads, which is typically lost with a standard overclock. PBO also allows for idle power saving with a standard performance. PBO is enabled through Ryzen Master.

The three key areas are defined by AMD as follows:

  • Package (CPU) Power, or PPT: Allowed socket power consumption permitted across the voltage rails supplying the socket
  • Thermal Design Current, or TDC: The maximum current that can be delivered by the motherboard voltage regulator after warming to a steady-state temperature
  • Electrical Design Current, or EDC: The maximum current that can be delivered by the motherboard voltage regulator in a peak/spike condition

By extending these limits, PBO gives rise for PB2 to have more headroom, letting PB2 push the system harder and further. PBO is quoted by AMD as supplying up to +16% performance beyond the standard.

AMD also clarifies that PBO is pushing the processor beyond the rated specifications and is an overclock: and thus any damage incurred will not be protected by warranty

StoreMI

Also available with the new Ryzen Threadripper 2 processors is StoreMI, AMD’s solution to caching by offering configurable tiered storage for users that want to mix DRAM, SSD, and HDD storage into a single unified platform. The software implementation dynamically adjusts data between up to 2GB of DRAM, up to 256 GB of SSD (NVMe or SATA), and a spinning hard drive to afford the best reading and writing experience when there isn’t enough fast storage.

AMD initially offered this software as a $20 add-on to the Ryzen APU platform, then it became free (up to a 256GB SSD) for the Ryzen 2000-series processors. That offer now extends to Threadripper. AMD’s best case scenario is citing a 90% improvement in loading times.

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  • NevynPA - Tuesday, August 14, 2018 - link

    Will there be results for WX chips in 'Game Mode' at various core/thread counts (6/12,8/16,12/24)?
  • jospoortvliet - Saturday, August 18, 2018 - link

    It has no game mode. Don't bother buying it for games...
  • jts888 - Tuesday, August 14, 2018 - link

    What is the methodology used for the core/uncore power breakdown? Where was a physical measurement or software reading taken, and what were the loads used?

    Furthermore, Zen uses single-ended signaling for IF links with alleged even further reduced power draw when in transient no-send states, so there should be at least two clearly explained tests done (i.e., both high and low inter-thread/core/sock bandwidth, with NUMA allocations detailed) before interconnect power breakdowns can be credibly presented as flat metrics of the architectures investigated.

    Although this review is still a work in progress, it needs some substantial improvements in clarity given the strength of the claims made and conclusions drawn.
  • ktmrc8 - Thursday, August 16, 2018 - link

    Let me add my voice to those asking for further elaboration on this point. I think it's very interesting, but I would like enough detail so that I could possibly replicate your data. In particular, I the charts showing power consumption decreasing as number of loaded threads increase counter-intuitive (at least for me!). Thanks.
  • Sahrin - Tuesday, August 14, 2018 - link

    The link power is a problem, but I get the feeling that nowhere near the power optimization went into IF as went into the cores.
  • notfeelingit - Tuesday, August 14, 2018 - link

    What's up with the 2950X crazy low score for the PCMark10 Startup Test? Is that repeatable?
  • crotach - Tuesday, August 14, 2018 - link

    So, 2700X looks like a clear winner here?
  • GreenReaper - Wednesday, August 15, 2018 - link

    For the average consumer, yes. It's a sweet spot. Heck, most would do fine with an APU. You don't expect a truck to win a race. Small engines tend to be more efficient; they're just limited in raw power.
  • witeko - Tuesday, August 14, 2018 - link

    hi, can we have some tests regarding data processing (spark, dask), machine learning (lightGBM/xgboost training), deep learning (i know there are GPUs) just to get a feeling (there are pre-made benchmarks for tensorflow) ? And also some reviews point to win10 vs linux differences for example in the zip test.
  • farmergann - Tuesday, August 14, 2018 - link

    Really should have included the Epyc 7401p as it's a serious contender in this price range (only $1,000).

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