gondalf.. post links to your bs.. or shut up.. most of what you say.. is bs.. AND it looks like you are comparing sunny cove to zen+ trying to pass it off as zen 2...the ONLY thing that is fake.. is you
For what I use my work laptop for - full desktop replacement driving three screens - these new processors look awesome. Sure we are not getting full fat 8/16 but this is a genuine desktop replacement for the mainstream user. There is a big difference between 100+ designs and my ability to order one though... I hope we see good supply but like I hope most buyers will do... I will have a budget look at the models that are actually available for that budget and then look at good real world reviews of those machines plus if at all possible get actually hands on with the one that looks best before buying. We all know that OEM limitations on memory speed and the TDP will make far more difference than +- 1-10% theoretical performance in an ideal scenario. Right now these CPU's look awesome, let's see them in the wild and then compare!
If the 4800H can really reach 4.2Ghz, then it will be faster than the i9 10th gen in single threaded loads and way faster in multithreaded loads. Many users on Tomshardware are reporting that their mobile high end Intel CPUs are capped at 4Ghz and not reaching the advertised 4.5Ghz.
Let see if AMD can reach their turbo speeds when benchmarks appear this year.
My thread in Tomshawrdware was about the 8750H not reaching 4.1Ghz.
What I mean is that those Intel 45W chips never reach their 4.5Ghz Turbo speed because temps doesn't allow reaching 98C and the CPU starts throttling. My 4820HQ reaches 98C during gaming with the fan at max and with Grizzly Kryonaut thermal paste and a coolpad.
In other words, if AMD doesn't throttle and allows 4.2Ghz, it would beat Intel's i9 10th gen. My only AMD laptop was a Turion X2 and temps weren't that high. With 7nm its possible to hit 4.2Ghz Turbo without throttling I hope.
i find it funny.. that on order to get the notebook to work as it was intended... one has to spend hours and hours tweaking and researching so it will.. maybe that cpu just shouldnt of been put in a notebook like that ?
Zizo007 thats not what i mean..28w, 45w, what ever watt... you still shouldnt have to spend hours tweaking and playing with settings to get it to work as it is supposed to.. 45w isnt too much for a notebook, IF the cooling system for it.. is done right. obviously, the cooling for these chips isnt...
Or rather, laptop manufacturers should do a better job in designing laptop cooling rather than cutting corners like they usually do. This is especially accurate for AMD laptops, but Intel suffers in this area too (along with the fact that people had to delid their CPU's to get it performing as it should have).
Thanks for the share. My 17" gaming laptop has a 6700HQ with a maximum boost of 3.5Ghz - it will hit 80+C when gaming, and that's with a ~125mv undervolt. Considering that the underlying architecture hasn't changed much from 6th to "10th" gen, it makes sense that they can't actually hit their supposed maximum boost speeds.
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Korguz - Wednesday, January 8, 2020 - link
gondalf.. post links to your bs.. or shut up.. most of what you say.. is bs.. AND it looks like you are comparing sunny cove to zen+ trying to pass it off as zen 2...the ONLY thing that is fake.. is youBerenApJiriki - Wednesday, January 8, 2020 - link
For what I use my work laptop for - full desktop replacement driving three screens - these new processors look awesome. Sure we are not getting full fat 8/16 but this is a genuine desktop replacement for the mainstream user. There is a big difference between 100+ designs and my ability to order one though... I hope we see good supply but like I hope most buyers will do... I will have a budget look at the models that are actually available for that budget and then look at good real world reviews of those machines plus if at all possible get actually hands on with the one that looks best before buying. We all know that OEM limitations on memory speed and the TDP will make far more difference than +- 1-10% theoretical performance in an ideal scenario. Right now these CPU's look awesome, let's see them in the wild and then compare!Zizo007 - Thursday, January 9, 2020 - link
If the 4800H can really reach 4.2Ghz, then it will be faster than the i9 10th gen in single threaded loads and way faster in multithreaded loads. Many users on Tomshardware are reporting that their mobile high end Intel CPUs are capped at 4Ghz and not reaching the advertised 4.5Ghz.Let see if AMD can reach their turbo speeds when benchmarks appear this year.
Spunjji - Thursday, January 9, 2020 - link
You've repeated that claim a few times, but I can't find the reports you mention. Can you link us to an example/s?Zizo007 - Thursday, January 9, 2020 - link
https://www.reddit.com/r/intel/comments/c6d8hk/i7_...My thread in Tomshawrdware was about the 8750H not reaching 4.1Ghz.
What I mean is that those Intel 45W chips never reach their 4.5Ghz Turbo speed because temps doesn't allow reaching 98C and the CPU starts throttling. My 4820HQ reaches 98C during gaming with the fan at max and with Grizzly Kryonaut thermal paste and a coolpad.
In other words, if AMD doesn't throttle and allows 4.2Ghz, it would beat Intel's i9 10th gen.
My only AMD laptop was a Turion X2 and temps weren't that high. With 7nm its possible to hit 4.2Ghz Turbo without throttling I hope.
Korguz - Thursday, January 9, 2020 - link
i find it funny.. that on order to get the notebook to work as it was intended... one has to spend hours and hours tweaking and researching so it will..maybe that cpu just shouldnt of been put in a notebook like that ?
Zizo007 - Saturday, January 11, 2020 - link
Exactly, laptops shouldn't be more 28W.45W is too much for a laptop.
Korguz - Monday, January 13, 2020 - link
Zizo007 thats not what i mean..28w, 45w, what ever watt... you still shouldnt have to spend hours tweaking and playing with settings to get it to work as it is supposed to..45w isnt too much for a notebook, IF the cooling system for it.. is done right. obviously, the cooling for these chips isnt...
deksman2 - Wednesday, January 15, 2020 - link
Or rather, laptop manufacturers should do a better job in designing laptop cooling rather than cutting corners like they usually do.This is especially accurate for AMD laptops, but Intel suffers in this area too (along with the fact that people had to delid their CPU's to get it performing as it should have).
Spunjji - Monday, January 13, 2020 - link
Thanks for the share. My 17" gaming laptop has a 6700HQ with a maximum boost of 3.5Ghz - it will hit 80+C when gaming, and that's with a ~125mv undervolt. Considering that the underlying architecture hasn't changed much from 6th to "10th" gen, it makes sense that they can't actually hit their supposed maximum boost speeds.