The AMD Ryzen 7 9700X and Ryzen 5 9600X Review: Zen 5 is Alive

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• Khanan - Wednesday, August 7, 2024 - link

  If you are right (big if, you’re probably not), this just makes it a great overclocker via PBO.

• shabby - Wednesday, August 7, 2024 - link

  It does, der8auer hit like 170w on his 9700x.
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jPJ0Khw3kIc

• Silver5urfer - Thursday, August 8, 2024 - link

  Yep, Skatterbencher pushed to its peak with a large gains across the board.
  
  AMD capping this processor is a sin and a shame. Why ruin a nice 8C16T part like this... Esp when your 7700X is like in spitting distance. They sabotaged it themselves.
  
  I hope they do not do that for Zen 6 on AM5, this socket needs a good power bump from 230WPPT to at-least 270-300W give 10950X a massive lead with higher power and not cap it for BS efficiency reasons, this is a Desktop socket not a portable BGA apple machine use and throw consumable.

• Khanan - Thursday, August 8, 2024 - link

  if that's true they can fix it with a 7700XT (like in 2nd gen).

• Khanan - Thursday, August 8, 2024 - link

  *9700XT

• schujj07 - Friday, August 9, 2024 - link

  The more power you use the harder it is to cool. Efficiency is also very important.

• Oxford Guy - Friday, August 16, 2024 - link

  AMD could also simply by delivering the minimal added value it thinks it can. Coasting to profit.

• Kevin G - Wednesday, August 7, 2024 - link

  This is fairly good improvement watt per watt but the big thing in the testing here is that AMD is placing these chips as "X" and not the vanilla 9600 or 9700. Yes they are rated at the same wattage as non "X" counter parts from the 7000 series but the 7600X and 7700X are a hair faster and because of their higher wattage can hit those turbo values for longer. The result is more of a wash between testing of the 9600X vs. 7600X and 9700X vs. 7700X judging from other review sites today. It is an improvement but for these chip its seems AMD didn't balance power and efficiency quiet right. Case in point is the massive amount of performance left on the table if PBO is enabled with the power limits set to the same 105W values as their 7700X and 7600X counter parts. Loosening the power a bit to 85W would have been a good midstep to demonstrate an efficiency improvement alongside a more tangible performance increase.
  
  I am still looking forward to seeing how the 9950X and 9900X fair in comparison to their 7950X and 7900X counter parts. There is additional power room at the top with the 7950X looking to get real world performance increases closer to the 16% average IPC increases AMD claims without the big asterisks of changing clock speeds or power limits impacting performance.
  
  I'm very eager to see what the 9800X3D can do given that both the 5800X3D and 7800X3D before it reduced the clock speeds in conjunction between adding V-cache into the packaging. If the 9800X3D is able to keep the same base clocks as the 9700X but with V-cache added, it'd be a very, very nice performance increase over the 7800X3D. Similarly a 9950X3D would be a very impressive part, though I'd hope that AMD would simply put V-cache on top of both chiplets for this generation even if ithey had to reduce clocks a notch or two compared to the 9950X.

• HideOut - Wednesday, August 7, 2024 - link

  "AMD has also taken a bit of a different approach with AVX-512 instructions for Zen 4,"
  
  You mean zen 5

• mukiex - Thursday, August 8, 2024 - link

  "Zen 5 is alive"
  
  No disassemble Zen 5!