Battery Life

Battery life remains probably the single largest differentiator for devices lately, and of huge concern to enthusiasts and normal shoppers alike. We’ve already caught a glimpse of how well 8974 fares from a power perspective inside the LG G2, a device that posted some seriously impressive battery numbers. The Note 3 we’re looking at is also 8974 based since it’s a T-Mobile model, and thus we expect the same kind of battery life.

With this generation of Note, battery gets even larger. The Note started with a then quite large 9.25 watt hour battery, then Note 2 moved to 11.78 watt hours, and Note 3 now moves to a very large 12.16 watt hour battery with of course the newest 3.8V chemistry and all that comes along with it. Display size goes up, but those power gains are offset in other places.

After we talked about the panel self refresh features in the G2 a few people reached out and let me know that this feature has been shipping for a while in some phones, and it’s easy to check for. If we look under the display subsystem we can see that the same MIPI_CMD_PANEL type 9 is used, which refers to this type of interface.

 

Qualcomm HWC state:
 MDPVersion=500
 DisplayPanel=9

define MIPI_CMD_PANEL ‘9’

Our battery life tests are unchanged and consist of a set of popular webpages that are loaded on a schedule with the display set to exactly 200 nits and repeated until the battery runs out and the device dies on both WiFi and cellular data connections. In this case that means T-Mobile LTE which is 10 MHz FDD in my market, I haven’t had a chance to run the Note 3 on HSPA+ yet, or complete the call test (which is starting to get ridiculous, and probably breaks 24 hours in the case of the Note 3).

AT Smartphone Bench 2013: Web Browsing Battery Life (4G LTE)

On LTE the Note 3 does very well, coming just shy of the pack of iPhones, at just over 8 hours. Interestingly enough it’s just north of the G2s as well, which do have a smaller battery but also smaller display. The Note 3 also is the first device to ship with Qualcomm’s QFE1100 envelope tracker solution from the RF360 front end portfolio, which lowers power consumption by up to 20 percent and heat dissipation by up to 30 percent by allowing the power amplifiers to follow the desired output waveform. There’s more on that later in the cellular section.

AT Smartphone Bench 2013: Web Browsing Battery Life (WiFi)

On WiFi the Note 3 does better by 22 percent, but not the kind of huge jump I’m used to seeing between cellular and WiFi testing. This tells me the Note 3 battery life is really gated by the display, which is almost always the largest consumer of power in a device. That said the Note 3 does very well all things considered, especially in comparison to the APQ8064 (Fusion 3) phones which came before it, like SGS4. New silicon and new process inside MSM8974 definitely helps move battery life forward here with the race to sleep game.

Charging is an interesting story on the Note 3, but primarily because of what doesn’t change. The Note 3 continues to use Samsung’s tablet charging specification and charger, which has 2 amps of maximum output. The Note 3 draws 2 amps over a considerable amount of the charging curve, like other Samsung devices (in the linear part of the charge curve). USB 3.0 doesn’t change things up here quite yet with the new supported charge voltages that are coming eventually with the power delivery specification.

Device Charge Time - 0 to 100 Percent

The Note 3 does charge faster overall compared to the SGS4 however thanks in part to the new PMIC (PM8941) which is part of the overall 8974 platform story.

 

S Pen Performance: CPU, GPU, NAND & USB 3.0
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  • JeffFlanagan - Tuesday, October 1, 2013 - link

    And we should care about an idiotic comment from someone with Apple fanboi written all over their username because...?
  • dugbug - Wednesday, October 2, 2013 - link

    because its another hunk of derivative plastic junk from Samsung?
  • Spunjji - Tuesday, October 8, 2013 - link

    Derivative of what? Their own previous products? :)
  • Spunjji - Tuesday, October 8, 2013 - link

    Cabbage.
  • budabellyx - Tuesday, October 1, 2013 - link

    Reviews like this are why I started coming back to Anandtech. I'm glad to see such a thorough review on a mobile device. Thank you for your hard work.
  • Squuiid - Tuesday, October 1, 2013 - link

    Ugh, did you read any of the comments before posting that?
    While I'd normally wholeheartedly agree with you, this review is the worst I've seen Anandtech post. I'm bitterly disappointed to be honest.
  • Drumsticks - Tuesday, October 1, 2013 - link

    I read all of them, and it doesn't really matter to me at all. I still think it was an excellent review. I think Anand could call them out but you're blowing it out of proportion.
  • Spunjji - Tuesday, October 8, 2013 - link

    Ugh, do you realise some people read reviews before the comments section?
    /swipes hair out of face
  • joe_dude - Tuesday, October 1, 2013 - link

    Benchmark shenanigans aside, the Note 3 does seem to be an excellent device. It'll be popular in Asia, but not in the US, where Apple's "you need to buy an ipad with your small iphone" brainwashing prevails.
  • ddriver - Tuesday, October 1, 2013 - link

    Well, even though pretty much every US website is heavily biased toward apple and skews reviews as well as conclusions in its favor (especially against a foreign direct competitor to apple like samsung), no amount of bias can make up for the tremendous difference between the two products. The way I see it, the only advantage the 5s has is slightly better single threaded performance, and not by all that much in native benches, in every other aspect the note 3 is superior. The note 3 can do pretty much everything the 5s can do, besides making up for poor self-esteem as much as apple products, but it is not the same the other way around, the 5s is small, has no stylus and so on.

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