NVIDIA Announces GeForce GTX 780 Ti; Shipping In Mid-November

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• Yorgos - Friday, October 18, 2013 - link

  Manufacturing Process ?
  
  Yes, this is a BIG question-mark, it might be at 27.5 nm

• zeock9 - Friday, October 18, 2013 - link

  I can only say one thing to AMD at this point : HAHA!!
  
  As much as I wanted AMD to fair better for competitions' sake, their dubious PR ploy had only disgusted me as of late.
  I'm glad nVidia's move will put an end to this absurdly nonsensical AMD marketing scheme of taking pre-orders without even telling us what we are buying and for how much.
  
  If nothing else, it will finally make AMD come out with honesty and simply release the spec/price of their new cards without frustrating their potential customers and making them turn to the green camp because of it.

• Einher - Friday, October 18, 2013 - link

  What do you mean fair better? AMD is doing just fine, and with the recently announced Never Settle bundle with the new R Cards, they will keep doing just fine. Plus with the ability to CossFire with the 7xxx series they have extended the life of the former generation.
  
  As for the "Marketing scheme" you speak of, all marketing is a scheme to try and get your money. As for turning to the Green side of things, you are already over there, most people just wait for the reveal and first impressions before buying.

• zeock9 - Friday, October 18, 2013 - link

  Not according to pretty much all the benchmarks out there, no, they are not doing fine on their CPU department. In fact I blame AMD's lack of presence in that segment for Intel's blatant ignorance for enthusiasts with regards to their latest offerings and possibly beyond.
  
  Perhaps you are fine with being chained and dragged by your balls for a ride by AMD with their 290x marketing scheme, but when was the last time you saw anybody trying to sell you a stuff without telling you what you are actually buying or even what you are paying for?
  Not to mention their dubious attitude more focused on halting and hurting their competition's market share, rather than trying to boost their own with honest divulgence of their own products - it all looks very disgusting to me personally.
  
  And you maybe right in guessing that AMD might just succeed turning me over to the green camp if they continue with this trend.

• Einher - Friday, October 18, 2013 - link

  Wow, the vitrol that you spew is quite amazing. Have you actually gone around and looked at any of the R series card reviews? The 280x is competing for price with the 760 and 770 in performance.
  
  They are doing quite well for their price points, as for the CPU segment, those are doing just fine with the CPU site of things with the last refresh. They stumbled with with Bulldozer, but the last couple are just fine. FX-8350 works quite well and overclocks amazingly to near or above 5.0 depending on the chip.
  
  You need to relax and stop taking things so personally, and in response to your question as to: "...when was the last time you saw anybody trying to sell you a stuff without telling you what you are actually buying or even what you are paying for?", my response would be any time i pre-order a game. I know basically what i am getting but not the minute details of the purchase.
  
  So just take a deep breath and try not to take the marketing strategy personally. If you don't want to get AMD or feel slighted, just go Blue and Green either way just go with what makes you happy.

• zeock9 - Friday, October 18, 2013 - link

  Nothing I said has anything to do with the R series' performance figures, what I am upset about, if you weren't able to figure that out yourself already, is their questionable marketing strategy, if you can even call it that, because they are on a verge of backfiring on the likes of me, as with many others who aren't happy with AMD dragging their feet.
  
  As per CPU side of things, one of the only bright selling point of their products is their value, which means much less when it comes to enthusiasts market segment as I've specifically mentioned.
  
  Your ill logical comparison between that BF bundle preorder blunder to game preorders notwithstanding, you simply need to accept the fact that many people aren't happy with AMD's current shady marketing strategy, so much so that some of us are thinking about not buying their products out of spite.
  
  If you have any doubts as to how company's image and reputations play a big role in their future sales, growth, and/or customer loyalty, then I have nothing more to say to you.

• Einher - Friday, October 18, 2013 - link

  How is it questionable, the only card we don't know about is the R9 and details are leaking out every week including today. I can't think of a single thing that is making you freak out so badly, is it that AUS retailers are asking for a $200 deposit? Cause that's the only case i can find for that. Neither Newegg/NCIX/Amazon are accepting pre-orders.
  
  I just don't see how you can call their marketing strategy questionable. as for their image, most AMD users that i know are quite happy with their products for price and performance, not to mention their ability to nicely OC.

• zeock9 - Friday, October 18, 2013 - link

  Following are some of the things that bother me:
  
  1. Paper launching their product then deliberately delaying release of technical specs, even though their final production silicon has long been taped out with review samples already in hands of some reviewers, trying to prevent people from buying their competitors product.
  
  2. Advertising vague features to push sales without disclosing what it actually is or does, creating massive confusion and speculations that, in the end, no one will know for sure until well past this holiday season when it actually gets utilized.
  Do you know what Mantle really is? We sure don't.
  
  3. Deliberately withholding vital information, such as its price, when they are asking for your money for preorders.
  "Hey, pre-buy our product instead of our competitor's that are available now. You don't know what you are buying, and you won't know how much it costs, but hey, give us your money"
  Does that really sound like a valid and plausible sales pitch to you?
  
  Granted those are all, notable exception being the last point, marketing ploys that have been used before, but not to an extent that AMD is pulling on us now.
  They are keeping too much under the veil in a hope that it would throw nVidia off, and it's working to a certain degree, but they are also backfiring and frustrating too many of their potential customers by doing so, one of them being me of course.

• nashathedog - Friday, October 18, 2013 - link

  I agree but he is right, AMD have taken the mickey by holding back all the info plus AMD post vids with titles like 290/290x specs and info and then give links to pages that only provide 270x/280x stats. It's like there purposely winding people up. I've been sat here everyday for weeks with my money holding off wanting to know whether it's worth my while waiting or whether to get the 780 now, and AMD won't give real info this close to the release, that's bullshit and now Nvidia hit out with this which is making it worse for AMD in my eyes as nvidia being so much more forward is preferable and may swing it there way for me.

• looncraz - Saturday, October 19, 2013 - link

  nVidia isn't giving out any details about the 780Ti, either... AMD and nVidia BOTH play the same "game."
  
  However, the reality is that retailers are under NDA - or don't have the merchandise yet - and then go live with pre-ordering without the details... it isn't like either company makes a habit of selling directly to the consumer...