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  • OEMG - Tuesday, July 18, 2017 - link

    I wonder how long until Intel releases a discrete graphics line. Xeon Phi does not seem to have the traction Intel was hyping about. You can also hear that it has various issues, perhaps owing to non-maturity, but also maybe adapting x86 into a massively parallel thing is just stretching it too far.

    Intel already has a solid grasp of OpenCL and along with AMD they'll have a real chance of putting NVIDIA's CUDA right into a corner.
  • jasonelmore - Tuesday, July 18, 2017 - link

    considering intel pays Nvidia patent licenses in their iGPU's, i doubt it will be puting CUDA into a corner anytime soon.
  • mrbios - Wednesday, July 19, 2017 - link

    That agreement is expired. As far back as December, Kyle Bennett from HardOCP had heard that they weren't renewing their agreement with Nvidia. Four or five months later, this was confirmed, and there was even talk of "Radeon Technologies" (as in the technology itself, not Radeon Technologies Group) becoming a part of Intel processors.
  • lefty2 - Wednesday, July 19, 2017 - link

    No. The agreement is perpetual and was paid in yearly installments - it's just that the payments ended, some people mistakenly think that it expired.
  • niva - Wednesday, July 19, 2017 - link

    So what you're saying is that there's a lawsuit coming...
  • Jhlot - Wednesday, July 19, 2017 - link

    No that is not what I took lefty2 to be saying. I interpreted it as they agreed to pay a fixed sum over a set number of installments for a perpetual license and they finished paying and now get to keep using the licensed tech forever.
  • planetguy - Tuesday, July 18, 2017 - link

    Just now, Windows made OpenGL 4.5, for only Skylake/Kabylake? The open-source Linux driver had that in October, and supports it on Broadwell too. But congratulations, I guess.
  • lmcd - Wednesday, July 19, 2017 - link

    They're very much separate codebases (in case you didn't know).
  • Gigaplex - Wednesday, July 19, 2017 - link

    Sure, but historically the Linux driver lagged in OpenGL support compared to the Windows driver. Things have changed quite a bit recently.
  • niva - Wednesday, July 19, 2017 - link

    When more mobile devices exist these days than actual desktop/laptop Windows PCs combined, each one of them supporting and needing Open GL updates, and running on iOS or Android (which uses linux kernel), it becomes a much higher priority. I think this trend is here to stay, which is probably a good thing.
  • ScottSoapbox - Tuesday, July 18, 2017 - link

    Hmm. Won't install on the new Surface Pro even though it has one of the listed CPUs.
  • lilmoe - Wednesday, July 19, 2017 - link

    That's because you're rubbing the oem driver. Uninstall that, delete the associated files and try installing the new one again.

    Or, better, wait until it's available automatically in Windows update.
  • lilmoe - Wednesday, July 19, 2017 - link

    Lol, rubbing=ruining
  • lilmoe - Wednesday, July 19, 2017 - link

    Lmao, i mean running. Freaking autocorrect
  • Hurr Durr - Wednesday, July 19, 2017 - link

    Same here on KL laptop, and I`m not rubbing the oem driver for sure.
  • damianrobertjones - Wednesday, July 19, 2017 - link

    You have to extract the files and install via the driver tab within device manager. You cannot install via the standard method and that's been the case for all Surface devices.

    Please also expect random issues. The last time I updated my Core M SP4 it could no longer send 5.1 audio over dp so I rolled back. Basically if everything's working fine on your Surface DON'T update.
  • Bullwinkle J Moose - Wednesday, July 19, 2017 - link

    The rare Intel driver update should be much appreciated

    B.T.W.
    Does Virtualbox video pass through only work with Linux distro's ?

    I got me some older games that simply will not work in Virtualbox even with the experimental 3D support enabled

    It would be nice if video pass through were simplified for the masses so we could actually use these new graphics drivers and hardware with unsupported Operating Systems and games

    Tried the newest Virtualbox released yesterday and graphics still broken for some older programs

    Many Virtualbox ease of use enhancements and audio fixes since last year but VLC still glitches when starting an MP3 file
    (KLite media player and Windows media player work fine though)
    I Blame VLC!
  • willis936 - Wednesday, July 19, 2017 - link

    Driver support ends after two years? Wow talk about penny pinching. I can't think of a single other company that does that.
  • Rocket321 - Wednesday, July 19, 2017 - link

    Qualcomm, the reason most phones only get updates for 18 months.
  • yhselp - Thursday, July 20, 2017 - link

    "Intel notes that all these optimizations only apply for processors with HD Graphics 620 or better."

    Why not HD Graphics 615? Isn't that the exact same GPU in a tighter power budget?
  • Bullwinkle J Moose - Sunday, July 30, 2017 - link

    WOW
    Nobody will probably read this but Virtualbox was updated again immediatly after I made the post above

    VLC now works perfectly in Virtualbox V5.1.26

    Thanks Guys!

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