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  • Alexey291 - Wednesday, April 6, 2016 - link

    Nice advert disguised as an article.
  • Brett Howse - Wednesday, April 6, 2016 - link

    They sent me the information about this, I tried the browser, liked it, and wrote about it. Just like every other piece of news we do.
  • Alexey291 - Wednesday, April 6, 2016 - link

    If you say so.
  • Mondozai - Wednesday, April 6, 2016 - link

    Yeah, Brett is totally on the payroll of the Vivaldi team.

    Jesus the trolls are fucking idiotic.
  • close - Wednesday, April 6, 2016 - link

    This is a press release combined with personal experience. There's nothing wrong with this as long as the facts are presented correctly.

    I've seen other examples on AT where there was no fact checking done on the details of that press release and as such it had plenty of misleading information. But this is not the case.
  • DanNeely - Wednesday, April 6, 2016 - link

    The same troll gets posted on every pipeline article. Generally paired with a complaint bemoaning that it's not an in depth analysis that took 3 months to complete and another whine about a product that's been out a few days and not reviewed yet.
  • Samus - Wednesday, April 6, 2016 - link

    Alexy do you really think Anandtech was paid to write a page about a new piece of software? That's like saying Engadget gets kickbacks for every Kickstarter they mention, like Pebble, Iga's Castlevania clone, and the video game Superhot.

    They get mentioned because they are interesting tech. That's what news is supposed to be. I now might try this browser because I otherwise would have never known about it. Do you really think some startup has capital to advertise their product? Think God damnit. What the hell are you doing on a media site if you fundamentally don't understand what media is.
  • JoeyJoJo123 - Wednesday, April 6, 2016 - link

    There's a different between media (the news report on channel 12, for example) and the commercial breaks that play in between the news report segments.
  • extide - Wednesday, April 6, 2016 - link

    So, you mean there is a difference between an article and a banner ad?
  • Samus - Wednesday, April 6, 2016 - link

    Do you watch the news? Media covers shit for free all the time. Donald Trump has received over 2 billion dollars in free media coverage this year alone!

    Reporting the news inherently involves some sort of placement, promotion, or in most cases, demotion of a product, person, place or event. This article is no different. The important thing to keep in mind here is Vivaldi is a FREE product, so the argument here is baseless because Brett isn't trying to "sell" anything for monetary gain because there isn't one.
  • Wolfpup - Friday, April 8, 2016 - link

    Yeah, I certainty appreciate that they covered this! For crying out loud, it's a new browser from the Opera people? That's certainly news for an in-depth tech site. I have to admit I was momentarily horrified by the thought of a new random browser, given that's usually something horrifically insecure, but then it's from the Opera guy, so, I'm interested.

    I use Edge as a sort of third browser, but IMO it's kind of terrible compared to Internet Explorer. It's really weirdly slow for me, and just clunky next to IE, Firefox, or Chrome...although as a mobile browser it's probably pretty great, and it's mostly fine.
  • at80eighty - Thursday, April 7, 2016 - link

    holy smokes. my eyes are finally opened.

    this revelation is as scandalous as the panama papers!!one11
  • mmrezaie - Wednesday, April 6, 2016 - link

    Well if you made it like comparison between other browsers like Firefox or the rest then it would not be seen like an ad. This is just an ad in my opinion but you have the right to publish advertisement articles although we would trust you even more if you mention them first.
  • nandnandnand - Wednesday, April 6, 2016 - link

    This is version 1.0 of the browser, and it's going to be widely reported throughout the tech press. It is not an advertisement article.
  • Arnulf - Wednesday, April 6, 2016 - link

    Can't wait for side-by-side performance and feature comparison with competing browsers (Firefox, Chrome) ...
  • bug77 - Wednesday, April 6, 2016 - link

    Seriously, it's Blink. It's going to perform exactly like Chrome/Chromium or Opera.
    Firefox is a whole different animal, though. It's more than competitive, but its single-threaded JS engine means it's not so suitable for heavy users that keep dozens of tabs open. Sadly, no benchmark will show you that.

    As far as features are concerned, the mere fact that it's configurable makes it a solid choice for me. I'm still using Seamonkey because of the number of configuration options, but since it appears to be a dead project, Vivaldi may very well become my next default browser.
  • xrror - Wednesday, April 6, 2016 - link

    Seamonkey isn't quite dead... yet. Might want to bookmark the blog, they've been having problems getting machines for their build systems and toolchain back up.

    https://blog.seamonkey-project.org/

    The 64-bit nightly and aurora builds have been pretty solid the last few, the 2016 04 04 ones at least so you might want to try em out. Also the 32 and 64 bit builds both store their settings in user profile, so you can switch from one to the other without losing your settings.
  • Amandtec - Wednesday, April 6, 2016 - link

    Doesn't read like an advert. For example - says not sure the world is ready for another browser. A long time back Dailytech did an investigation into news outlets who accept payola. About 70% or so do. It is safe to assume if anyone doesn't Anandtech doesn't. I have been reading it from day one back in the day and the independence shines through for me.
  • zeeBomb - Thursday, April 7, 2016 - link

    Is there a chrome://flags option in Vivaldi?
  • aryonoco - Wednesday, April 6, 2016 - link

    And no mention of their controversial ad-replacement strategy?
  • Alexey291 - Wednesday, April 6, 2016 - link

    Surely that's not the purpose of the article
  • Death666Angel - Wednesday, April 6, 2016 - link

    Googling "vivaldi ad-replacement" gives this article with your comment as the first hit. Any info you want to provide us in the dark with?
  • Mr.Prayer - Wednesday, April 6, 2016 - link

    You're confusing it with Brave. I would recommend using B12 for the memory.
  • mforce - Wednesday, April 6, 2016 - link

    Well it would have been nice if it were open source. As such there are plenty of nice open source browsers for me too choose from and that all work on Linux so no thanks.
  • Samus - Wednesday, April 6, 2016 - link

    Considering how popular some of their features are going to be, I suspect they wanted it closed source to prolong the inevitable: the competition ripping it off.
  • Ninhalem - Wednesday, April 6, 2016 - link

    There is a version for Linux. Why don't you go to Vivaldi's download page before you declare that they have no open source version. I've been using Vivaldi for months since the early alpha stages, and the browser how replaced my every browser I've used on Windows, OSX, and Linux.
  • ZeDestructor - Wednesday, April 6, 2016 - link

    Open-source is not a requirement of Linux compatibility. There's plenty of closed-source stuff that works on Linux out there, like Wolfram, Matlab, AutoCAD for example.
  • doggface - Wednesday, April 6, 2016 - link

    Couple of questions:

    Extension support? I dont use edge because it doesnt have extensions.

    And i use extensions so i can have ublock origin, ghostery, etc. Is there any adblocker stuffs in there, etc?
  • doggface - Wednesday, April 6, 2016 - link

    Ok. I was lazy. Googled it. Apparently you can install straight from the google extension store. Nice!

    Going to give it a crack
  • doggface - Wednesday, April 6, 2016 - link

    Ok. Gave it a go.
    Just chewed up cpu cycles and loaded websites slowly.

    Hopefully it will be better tmrw.
  • revanchrist - Wednesday, April 6, 2016 - link

    Been a Vivaldi user for three to four months now. One of the 11 or 12 browsers installed on my main pc. The experience is quite differ from other Chrome based browsers, but nothing actually stands out as must have.
  • Michael Bay - Wednesday, April 6, 2016 - link

    Why would you need more than one, if you`re not a web developer?
  • Mr.Prayer - Wednesday, April 6, 2016 - link

    Different user but will give you my 2 cents:
    1) Using mozilla as default browser, with uBlock configured to block all scripts. If some site is particularly painful to configure (you need to comb thru like 70 JS hosts) i just run it inside chrome.
    2) When i stumble upon a site that's blocked country-wide (Russia) i open it in Yandex's Browser that is configured to use "Opera.Turbo" by default.
    3) I don't have Flash installed system-wide, so again have to use chrome to watch something like Twitch.
    4) Sometimes it's more convenient to use multiple programs to quickly switch between windows (due to win7 taskbar grouping, having to use 1 extra mouse click).
  • aIIergen - Wednesday, April 6, 2016 - link

    I think the nice things Brett mentioned here have been available on Opera for a long time. I'd like to know what makes Vivaldi Vivaldi, over Opera of today. But wait, I re-thought that - What I expect for Vivaldi is reimplementing good old Opera-12-like features that Opera-of-today have been lost - Ah yes, you are correct. This is Vivaldi, which replaces Opera-12 with state-of-the-art Blink to kill Opera. This is it.
    (I'm on Opera day-to-day use for more than a decade and have run Vivaldi beta for some time.)
  • satai - Wednesday, April 6, 2016 - link

    Stil no password sync and no mobile application -> usable for power users, that don't need basic features.
  • Barilla - Wednesday, April 6, 2016 - link

    Opera 12 was the best browser I ever used and this looks like Opera 12 on steroids - definitely gonna give it a try.
  • id4andrei - Wednesday, April 6, 2016 - link

    It only looks like it but it's not. It's a Chrome skin. Opera died with Presto. I too loved Opera :(.
  • stephenbrooks - Wednesday, April 6, 2016 - link

    Yeah I like Vivaldi's approach a lot but worried if the Chromium engine gets too much market share we'll end up with websites "designed for Chromium" that render wrongly on other engines (much like IE in the 90s/2000s).
  • Arnulf - Wednesday, April 6, 2016 - link

    Looks rather ugly and bland, just like Windows 8, 8.1 and 10.

    It's a real shame not a single browser today employs the colorful, yet simple interface of the early Firefox (3.x). Even Firefox team went full retard with the dumbed-down interface and monochrome default theme :-(

    Most of us computer users aren't colorblind so we actually benefit from multi-color icons and themes ...
  • Ninhalem - Wednesday, April 6, 2016 - link

    There is a dark mode that works fantastically. Themes are resource intensive and why would power users need excess themes to customize?
  • ShaolinBear - Wednesday, April 6, 2016 - link

    I disagree. All programs should at least have the option for a well-designed greyscale UI. I have yet to find a solution that smoothly converts colour to greyscale, either not completely changing it or being to aggressive and changing content colour as well. For now I have a shortcut on all my devices to enable greyscale, which I only disable for media consumption and gaming. Options are always good.
  • Arnulf - Wednesday, April 6, 2016 - link

    What is the advantage of reducing your ability to perceive information to a narrow subset of colors?

    Me, I was delighted to move up from monochrome (HGC) to what looked almost perfectly lifelike 8-bit VGA palette :-) I can't imagine reverting back 30 years, not after seeing Windows 7, OS X and other well-designed GUIs ...
  • metayoshi - Friday, April 8, 2016 - link

    On the other end of the spectrum, what's the advantage of having full 24-bit muticolored icons vs a icon with only 5 colors, when the purpose of the icon is just to have a place on the screen to click and open up the desired application?
  • metayoshi - Friday, April 8, 2016 - link

    an* icon. no edit button
  • BrokenCrayons - Wednesday, April 6, 2016 - link

    Configuration options aside, it's using Chromium which doesn't really make it more than the same guy you dated last Friday wearing a different outfit for the next date. If you liked that guy, then you're all set no matter what he wears, but if you weren't gushy about him to begin with, then the new clothes aren't going to compensate for his disagreeable personality.

    I don't have anything against a new browser. Competition makes them all collectively better as they steal features from one another or are just outright forced to address problems because there's another offering out there that doesn't have the same issue. No matter what though, web browsers are nothing more than the mechanism required to download, process, and display HTML. Getting wrapped around the name and company behind a given browser is wasteful. Use what works and let other people alone to use what works for them.
  • XZerg - Wednesday, April 6, 2016 - link

    3 features i look for in a browser:
    1) extensions
    2) keyword bookmarks
    3) being able to search as I type without having to press ctrl-f (not a critical feature but good to have)

    i know extensions are supported on this one. i want the 2nd for sure or I am staying with FF. does anyone know?
  • ZeDestructor - Wednesday, April 6, 2016 - link

    3) is user-configurable in most browsers. I have it off on all the browsers I install and use.
  • XZerg - Wednesday, April 6, 2016 - link

    i have yet to figure #3.

    #2 - doable at bookmark level. although some of my bookmarks were search field bookmarks that i had to manually setup as search engines. it allows you to import all my bookmarks, history and passwords from firefox. the only caveat is it doesn't "restore/import" the keywords saved on those bookmarks as nicknames.

    two glaring concerns (that i may have to figure out if possible and how):
    1) in firefox (ff), i could press CTRL+<#> to switch to that tab location (Ctrl+1 was first tab, Ctrl+3 was third tab, ...) i don't see that here. the browser actually uses Ctrl+1/2 to move between tabs previous/next instead of Ctrl+Tab and Shift+Ctrl+Tab. I can change the previous/next keys but i am still curious how to switch to specific tabs like ff Ctrl+<#>.

    2) want to find out how i can backup all the bookmarks and configurations and restore across OSes (ie Windows to Linux)...
  • ZeDestructor - Wednesday, April 6, 2016 - link

    3): In FF: Options -> Advanced -> General -> "Search for text when I start typing"
    In Chrome: Give up or use extension that sortof enables it: http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id...
    In Vivaldi: Not present, interestingly. Probably from no support in Blink in the first place
    In Opera: Same story as Vivaldi
    In Edge: No option found
    In Safari: ??? I don' t have a mac to test

    Interesting... I seem to have living in Gecko-land for a very, very long time.... Too long perhaps?

    As for bookmarks, FF, Chrome, Edge, Opera and I think Safari as well all have sync services (in the case of FF, that includes the ability to run your own sync server on your own infrastructure). In pretty much all cases, extensions, bookmarks and passwords will be synced, and depending on the extension, extension prefs too.
  • CiccioB - Wednesday, April 6, 2016 - link

    I've been giving it a look from time to time to see how it evolved.
    I'm still using Opera 12 as my email reader. It was fantastic, apart the rendering engine that couldn't cope with some sites.
    I just want email support in the browser. I am used to that, and I really find uncomfortable to use two apps to do the same thing (being connected and look to the network info).
    Once they'll get email support in it I'm going to finally get rid of Opera 12 as my mail reader and Opera elevenhundred for serious web navigation. I liked Opera 12 custom style and the option to disable image loading but load them in demand without enabling the entire site as it is now. It is great with pay-for-MB mobile subscriptions.
  • rxzlmn - Wednesday, April 6, 2016 - link

    I'm using it as my main browser since a while and it's good enough, for me it's much nicer to use than Chrome, but it still lacks some major features that are sort of standard, so I'm surprised they released the current version as 1.0

    - No sync
    - No detachable tabs (you can right-click and open the tab in a new window, but it has to reload/rebuild the entire site)
  • rocketbuddha - Wednesday, April 6, 2016 - link

    When I try to install the latest 64 bit Windows version, I am getting "Unable to Install. Check if another instance of Chrome is running". I checked the Task Manager and see nothing. I even closed other chrome based browsers like Opera and Chromodo. Still getting the error.

    Did anyone have luck?
  • The True Morbus - Thursday, April 7, 2016 - link

    "Build for power users".
    Doesn't have a search bar.

    LOL.
  • ZeDestructor - Friday, April 8, 2016 - link

    Available in options. got it set in mine.
  • sharath.naik - Thursday, April 7, 2016 - link

    Tried and was disappointed right away. No NPAPI support has been restored, so no java/ no silver light.
    So what as the point of this, you can as well use the firefox with all the extensions. I was hoping that this would be a full featured chromium based browser, but it is not.

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