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  • overseer - Saturday, May 19, 2018 - link

    Is it my illusion or Radeon driver support did degenerate somewhat after Raja's departure?
  • Death666Angel - Saturday, May 19, 2018 - link

    Wouldn't this release showcase the exact opposite? Do you have any timelines for such releases in the past that can show me how it is worse now than then?
  • Ket_MANIAC - Saturday, May 19, 2018 - link

    He meant the lack of a proper driver for an extremely popular CPU series since February, which amounts to about 3 months now. AMD were always better than Nvidia at driver support since the Crimson days, but this move surprised me as well. They should have had stable drivers at launch.
  • HStewart - Saturday, May 19, 2018 - link

    My curious thought is how do the drivers work on my i8705G (Dell XPS 15 2in1) - most curiously I been trying to get 10 bit color to work on external - also how to direct output to AMD GPU - spec states it supports 6 monitor and HDMI 2.0 ( 10 bit color )
  • HStewart - Saturday, May 19, 2018 - link

    Above comment was meant for root level, but this forum but it here.

    I have always found NVidia to be best with drivers support, Of course this is only time I have try AMD drives since 80's or 90's. - Even the 8705G states Intel - it looks and acts the same as one mention in this article.
  • Ket_MANIAC - Saturday, May 19, 2018 - link

    The intel driver is just AMD's driver with an Intel theme. They use the general desktop drivers as they have nothing in common with the APUs. They are like GPUs but just on the same die as the processor. The CPU and GPU are still different silicon. The APUs are different as both the CPU and the GPU are on the same silicon. So they need special drivers. Up until now, the APUs on both laptops and desktops were running drivers from the Windows update as there was no official driver.
    As for driver support, the tables have turned. AMD has the better driver support now with less crashes and bugs than Nvidia. IMO, only update drivers on Nvidia when you need to. On AMD the same applies, but they also have some significant performance upgrades with each driver, subtle, but noticeable over time.
  • campcreekdude - Sunday, May 20, 2018 - link

    I update drivers if I buy a new released game or if I do a major Windows Update.
    Nvidia or AMD sames story.
    Most of the time drivers already support the game before a big giant steam sale comes on.
  • HStewart - Sunday, May 20, 2018 - link

    The cpu combination is actually two different dies - but included in special new advance processed Intel calls EMIB. The driver looks very similar to AMD interface show in this article - the odd thing it says new update drive is there.

    I disagree that AMD drivers are better than NVidia. I been using NVidia drivers since the early GeForce days My biggest concern with AMD drivers is support for professional applications

    I like my XPS 15 2in1 and it currently running on my LG 34u88-B - and best think is that I can also use in on my bad or carry it around like tablet. The one thing I am not sure if this GPU.
  • Dragonstongue - Saturday, May 19, 2018 - link

    the only issue I currently have using any "crimson" based driver (whatever you want to call it, is that the clock speeds do not drop properly when they should or do not go up when they should either LOL.

    granted am nut using newest best stuff (be damned if I pay 25-150% over MSRP for anything)

    tried using first crimson all the way to 18.4.1 (the april driver) could not launch its control panel at all, and basically could not force control clock speeds for GPU because of this.

    I prefer afterburner because can create multiple profiles which cannot do with wattman not via previous CCC, however, setting a clock does not force lock it either which is crap (I wish it was not this way)

    I personally would rather have it "sluggish" but listen to the settings I use rather than override my settings and jump core or mem clock settings as it sees fit.

    I hope at some point in the near future they have a finer grained user attentive control on the voltage-core-mem clocks for Radeon drivers.

    base example, I can "force" my 7870 to 525/600 (core/mem) at .856v it actually uses less power than the lowest clock rate the card is capable of 150/300 at .836v (which is messed up, but I have tested this before) but the moment any "load" is pushed it will auto clock to 400/1200 @ .900 volts or full 3d load will try and clock up to 1050/1200 @ 1.219v (way overvolted for nothing)

    Used to be able to "force" all time clock rates, but since I think it was driver sets 10 or 11 something or other can no longer do this which just sucks, makes potential ability to keep power/thermals in check a losing battle.

    <3 AMD have for many years now, have not used nor will ever personally use and Ngreedia product again for many reasons, would be nice if the Radeon team added all those "little extras"

    Also, EVGA is ditching DVD drivers instead will be using USB from now on...AMD and their partners should be doing this as well, might have been able to avoid purchases of 2200/2400g from needing a "bootkit" being sent out ^.^
  • campcreekdude - Sunday, May 20, 2018 - link

    I had sticky clock issues with my 7970 and I kept creating support tickets and updating drivers until they fixed it. When its working fine another reason not to update.
  • haplo602 - Monday, May 21, 2018 - link

    Fine, so I have a new driver I can try to force-install on my Ryzen 2500u mobile part ... Still waiting on ANY kind of official new driver for the laptop parts since launch ...
  • haplo602 - Monday, May 21, 2018 - link

    So I had the chance to give it a try, looks stable, so far the best performance in Unigine Superposition for me ...
  • risa2000 - Monday, May 21, 2018 - link

    Then it is strange that the very note that you linked in the article is explicitly saying that the drivers are compatible "with the following products." without actually giving any.

    The following paragraph related to "AMD Ryzen™ Desktop Processors with Radeon™ Vega Graphics Compatibility" seems to be only addressing some particularities.

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