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  • jabber - Thursday, February 12, 2015 - link

    I do like the simple look of those educational machines, not to mention the slightly ruggedised build. I've seen them for sale on retail sites but haven't had the chance to buy one in for a customer to try them out.
  • savagemike - Thursday, February 12, 2015 - link

    I'm confused. They are going to sell a Core M tablet for $330? But the Android version is $30 less and runs Bay Trail? That doesn't seem like it could be correct. Did I miss something?
  • JarredWalton - Thursday, February 12, 2015 - link

    Dell said Bay Trail during the briefing, but now Venue 10 Pro is showing Core M. It could be that the 10 Pro will have the option of Core M or Bay Trail, but if not then the price is pretty darn impressive. Guess we'll see.... I've asked Dell for clarification.
  • JarredWalton - Friday, February 13, 2015 - link

    After double-checking yesterday, today Dell got back to me and said the information they provided yesterday was incorrect -- the specs were for the Venue Pro 11, not the Venue Pro 10, so sorry: no Core M. Damn. Pricing for the VP11 will almost certainly be quite a bit higher as well.
  • nathanddrews - Thursday, February 12, 2015 - link

    Would you mind verifying the pricing of the Venue 10 Pro? I'm not complaining, but $330 for a Core M tablet seems much too cheap - this is the CPU with a $281 tray price that Intel stated that tablets and convertibles would be $600-900. This is quite a discount, if the latter is true. Will these prices be available only to schools in bulk?

    http://www.engadget.com/2014/06/05/intel-core-m-de...

    - Jealous
  • Anonymous1a - Thursday, February 12, 2015 - link

    The prices certainly don't seem right. The current generation of Venue Pro 11's starts at around 500 and that's for Atom.
  • azazel1024 - Thursday, February 12, 2015 - link

    I agree. It would be nice to know if that price is correct. $330 sounds like the base price of only the Venue 10 with android and Bay Trail-T.

    I'd be shocked if the base Venue 10 pro was less than $500 and I'd imagine with that HD screen, top processor and maxed storage was more like $900.

    A little sad only 2GB of RAM with no options for more
  • JarredWalton - Thursday, February 12, 2015 - link

    Just confirmed and updated the text: $330 with 64GB storage and Core M is the starting point. Looking really nice to be honest, though I agree -- more than 2GB RAM would have sealed the deal.
  • savagemike - Thursday, February 12, 2015 - link

    That really is rather incredible. I'm surprised nobody else is giving it more news. A $330 64GB core M machine is pretty impressive. I personally don't mind the extra chunk of the education build all that much. I might actually think about getting a Windows tablet if this is gonna be the new ballpark.
  • nathanddrews - Thursday, February 12, 2015 - link

    I'm pretty sure every day humans can't buy them. Schools only.
  • JarredWalton - Friday, February 13, 2015 - link

    You can buy the current education models, and Dell said in our briefing that these are available for general consumers as well. Whether or not they're at the same price remains to be seen.
  • Hifihedgehog - Friday, February 13, 2015 - link

    Exactly as the journalist himself just said. Sandwiched within the article, he also notes:

    "consumer models with 1080p will exist as well."

    Realistically, I am guessing these will be in the $500 to $700 range to compete with the T300 Chi.
  • Anonymous1a - Friday, February 13, 2015 - link

    OK, that's just unbelievable! It's way too cheap for those kinds of specs and Dell isn't the kind of company to start price wars and this is more of a Xiaomi move (a Toshiba Encore 2 Write starts at 400 with a Wacom pen and an Atom and they're selling Core M at 330?) so I'm still waiting for the catch. But, if it has the new pen tech from Wacom, like the one used in the Toshiba, I'd buy this thing without blinking an eye!
  • Valis - Friday, February 13, 2015 - link

    And still only 32 bit windows... Guess I have to wait a few more years to use new windows devices.
  • JarredWalton - Friday, February 13, 2015 - link

    Text has been updated today. Dell emailed me to apologize and let me know they sent out the wrong specs; the Venue Pro 10 will be Bay Trail, which fits the pricing model a lot better. Too bad....
  • damianrobertjones - Thursday, February 12, 2015 - link

    Well... In all honesty I see zero reason to use a Chromebook. If you want to mess around buy a Windows laptop and install Ubuntu or run them in Hyper-V. If you want to appear special then buy a macbook then run whatever you want in Parallels.

    The hardware in these machines is beyond poor. What's the storage space on the Chromebook? 16GB!!!! Come on people... These oems are just using Chrome(books) to sell you more crap KNOWING that there's better hardware and space on offer. Their margins are probably higher. Try not to fall for it all.

    Then again, if you must, then go for it. Just try not to think that they're offering you anything special as they're not.

    "As for the 11.6-inch, 1,366 x 768 display" - Good gosh! That res has been slammed for YEARS by review sites so it should also be slammed on these Chromebooks (Which usually doesn't happen)
  • savagemike - Thursday, February 12, 2015 - link

    Or just take a deep breath and realize that Chromebooks are pushing a paradigm which is basically a hybrid thin client model which does have a slim local OS but relies on the web/cloud for most actual use. This has the great benefit of the hardware being completely replaceable in a matter of moments if you follow the paradigm and don't use local storage for permanent or long term records.
    That means education and corporate IT depts. don't need to assign a specific unit to specific users necessarily. It also means if your device breaks as a user you've lost nothing but the few minutes it would take to sign into a new Chromebook.
    By all means though, if your goal is to simplify actual use, run Ubuntu or Hyper-V on a wiped Windows machine. That should really put you on the track of spending less time managing your computer and more time using it.
  • jabber - Friday, February 13, 2015 - link

    The people who 'don't get' Chromebooks are actually the people that understand them all too well and know that in a few years time will make their current job redundant.

    They fear the Chromebook future and will FUD all they can as they go down kicking and screaming.
  • jabber - Friday, February 13, 2015 - link

    Oh and actually 1368x768 works fine on a 11" screen. It's just when you get 13" and higher that it's unacceptable.

    Remember it;s a 11" screen, NOT a 15.6".
  • bliq00 - Thursday, February 12, 2015 - link

    Is that really what you think providing chromebooks to schoolchildren is about? "Messing around" or "Appearing special"? I don't think this article about education market laptops is for you.

    kids are used to tablets and phones and their instant on, snappy performance. Windows machines at that $200 price are too sluggish-kids won't use them (Ubuntu on a $200 laptop also sucks BTW). Chromebooks fit the bill for 95-100% of students' use case, have a similar user experience to a tablet, doesn't cost as much as an ipad, easier to type on than an android tablet, are light, have long lasting batteries, and only cost $200. yes the screens generally suck but it's $200. There are $330 chromebooks with 1080p IPS panels. That's why Chromebooks are muscling into the education market.

    and trying to get kids to use Ubuntu? You know, regular kids? Good luck with that.
  • lewisl9029 - Thursday, February 12, 2015 - link

    Any idea if the Wacom Pen it's using would be the older versions that don't need a battery or the newer version that uses a AAAA battery?

    I'd jump on it as soon as it becomes available if it's the former.
  • JarredWalton - Thursday, February 12, 2015 - link

    Dell didn't provide any real details on the WACOM pen, but it sounds like they're using the more recent stuff so I'd assume it's a AAAA battery model. Let me ask...
  • Hifihedgehog - Friday, February 13, 2015 - link

    It is the newer, AAAA battery-driven variety. From an official Dell service document that Liliputting uncovered, it confirms it as such:

    "There’s also an active digitizer and support for an optional digital pen which lets you write or draw on the screen. The stylus uses an AAAA battery and has replaceable tips."

    http://liliputing.com/2015/01/dell-venue-10-pro-2-...
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